Look at an 8/8 GS vs DS Hunter in a vaacuum, and you'll see DS is marginally better single target.

If you don't get allocated the necessary debuff slot you're stuck with a mix of R12 and AQ gear or might eventually get enough T3 to make breaking it worth it. Cat has a 10% damage modifier while a wolf has 0% damage modifier. On average, both a faster and a slower pet will miss the same % of attacks, and since dmg is normalized, that means losing the same amount of damage as well.

You break 8/8 T1 with 8/8 T2.

Also, if your raid is progression locked on a mitigation check like Broodlord, a Bird is gonna bring more benefit.8/8 GS is slightly higher dps in cleave fights, and it is comparable single target dps once enough other hunters have 8/8 DS - the cutoff is likely 2. 3 Items: Increases the range of your Mend Pet spell by 50% and the effect by 10%. Giantstalker's Boots. You can check logs to see how little dmg they actually do.Situationally, Wind Serpents & Wolves can still be useful once they're nearly dead from Cleave/AoE. Giantstalker Armor (8 pieces) [Giantstalker's Belt] [Giantstalker's Boots] [Giantstalker's Bracers] [Giantstalker's Breastplate] [Giantstalker's Epaulets] [Giantstalker's Gloves] [Giantstalker's Helmet] [Giantstalker's Leggings] (3) Set: Increases the range of your Mend Pet spell by 50 and the effect by 10. I haven't been able to find the answer yet, making it harder to do proper calculations and comparisons. Giantstalker Armor is a level 66 item set for Hunter class in WoW Classic.It gives extra bonuses for wearing 3, 5 and 8 items:. (its really small, but if you have the option getting a faster attackspeed you should go for it)If you focus on providing the most damage for your raid grp the wolf is best." This doesn't happen in raid. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts You may be able to snapshot the 3/8 T2 bonus by equipping the pieces, casting Aspect of the Hawk, then switching back to 8/8 T1 however.I've heard the same thing about 3/8 hawk bonus persisting after you unequip tier 2. Brokentooth has 1.0 attack speed the fastest in the game for Hunter pets.Also furious howl is almost useless especially if you are on Horde.

Good point.Cats are better overall dps by a small margin - a simple YouTube search would have told you this, watch Zera, he goes into the numbers for you.If you have 2 or more hunters with 8/8 DS then roll with that, the proc rate for DS is very low so it's not worth running one by itself. Guy4game strictly observes the rules of WOW Classic and strongly disagrees with the disorderly conduct of using exploits and bots. the hype about attack speed is to do with spell pushback in PvP - there are EXTREMELY marginal differences in PvE performance based on attack speed, differences that you will never realistically be able to account for anyway - MAYBE the boss dodges more of your faster attacks, MAYBE you lose a bit more dmg when they dodge a 2.0 attack instead of a 1.0, or MAYBE you get 1 more 1.0 attack off before he dies or your pet dies. (8) Set: Increases the damage of Multi-shot and Volley by 15%. Could some theorycrafter help me understand why wowhead suggests breaking giantstalkers at 3-pieces of Dragonstalker? It is one of those two.It’s not a claim it’s a fact. One of us is going to focus on 8/8 T2, while the other focuses on the other slots...then fipflop.T3 is when you break 8p t1, unless you have r12 glovesYou wait till you have full T2 and enough hit from your rings, neck and trinkets. Pet families have normalized DPS based on attack speed.The reason I am not considering other factors than just pure output (both direct and Furious Howl), is that the value of being able to do something while not in melee range is more difficult to quantify.

If you know, I'd love to hear it.I don't think the differences in attack speed do what you describe. Also it uses a buff slot which my push off important world buffs such as DM tribute buffs.Cat does the most damage overall. Requires level 60. Please keep the following in mind when posting a comment:Your comment must be in English or it will be removed.You might want to proof-read your comments before posting them. It boosts Armor by 237, … Im on my phone and wont provide you math but check warcraftlogs and hunter discord.Zera did a video with "math" on cat vs. wind serpent. You will piss off your tanks or WB'ed melee if they lose a buff because of wolf howl.Well, the differences between cat and wind serpent is, as you say, +10% vs +7%, but also Bite + Claw vs Bite + Lightning Breath. Furious howl doesn’t work like you think it doesI wonder whether this answer is due to not reading my post, or due to reading it and deciding to go for the troll. The expose weakness debuff is trash in bwl raid. Giantstalker's Leggings: Set Bonuses Wearing more pieces of this set will convey bonuses to your character.

Add a photo to this gallery See Also: Set look alikes Patch 1.7.0 (patch date:2005-09-22): The amount of pet resistance granted by the set bonuses for the Giantstalker's has been reduced while the pet health granted has been increased. Smaller sample sizes (in this case, fewer attacks) are more susceptible to randomness than larger sample sizes.If people are buff capped, you are totally right that Furious Howl would be a liability, and should be avoided. For example, Sian Rotam has an attack speed of 2.0, but does twice as much dmg as BT per attack, which means that BT and SR have the same DPS.As for your claim that hunters will not normally be grouped with more than 3 melee - feel free to provide evidence supporting the claim.Press J to jump to the feed.

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But your raiding guild might prioritize paladin/shaman and 2set druid over you so...Break it for devilsaur and black dragonscale, when you reroll warriorBreak it for devilsaur and black dragonscale, when you reroll warriorLast night I completed 8/8 t2 at vael, which made two hunters in raid with full t2. You may be able to snapshot the 3/8 T2 bonus by equipping the pieces, casting Aspect of the Hawk, then switching back to 8/8 T1 however.

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