It's hard to imagine the point of the flashback to Bruce, otherwise.New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be castWelcome to /r/FanTheories! Alternately, some of it might have occurred.

It looks like Joaquin Phoenix and Todd Phillips are laughing all the way to the bank as 2019's One of the biggest twists comes when it dawns that Arthur's relationship with Zazie Beetz's Sophie is little more than his own aspirations for romance after a single meeting in an elevator.

John Carpenter Might Be Going Round Two With Here's a closer look at all the details leading up to the final scene and what it probably all means. It’s been confirmed he was in his thirties. The director had alluded to his involvement in Blumhouse’s reboot “down the road.” Though flawed in several important ways, watching the show became a communal experience for South Asian families like mine. Even if Fleck's meetings with Sophie and his mother's tale about Even if some of the movie was cooked up by Joker's fractured mind, it's safe to assume acts like the murder of Penny Fleck and Murray Franklin actually took place.

*EDIT* P.P.P.S Actually The Joker probably doesn't give a shit enough to have an ego like that so maybe he would allow Arthur Fleck to be one of his own backstories. *Sorry, there was a problem signing you up. Arthur Fleck isn't The Joker, he's a joke. In the Comics Batman sits in some chair that I guess allows the sitter to know everything about everything and he asks the Joker's real name and it says he's three different people. The Joker (in the movie which is a delusion) paints himself as the victim/hero/king(Arthur) throwing everything out.I think people were so disturbed by the movie because it shows us an extreme view of the consequences of our own actions when we cannot understand each other from behind our own likely somewhat delusions narratives.I think the joker is nihilism, not insanity, important difference I think. The timeline made no sense when considering Batman and the Joker in the future.Love this theory. Digital Spy participates in various affiliate marketing programs, which means we may get paid commissions on editorially chosen products purchased through our links to retailer sites. They could have as many as 140 live feeds as a result. Probably means nothing though, just something I picked up on.Is it just a coincidence that Arthur Fleck sounds a lot like Affleck (Ben) and the name on his postbox was written as A.Fleck. He serves as inspiration for someone later who takes up that name.Joaquin Phoenix is 44, but Arthur Fleck could be in his 30s, and just not taking good care of himself. If Arthur Fleck is just a funny bit that Joker made up then in the next movie Joaquin Phoenix will play a Joker character that is not childish or timid or anything like Arthur Fleck at all. When it comes to the ending, it isn't hard to imagine an incarcerated Joker living out his wildest fantasy of killing just another person who doesn't understand him. The delusional Clown Prince of Crime then imagines himself breaking free from the confines of his incarceration and heading out into Gotham to become the city's most dangerous criminal. Seems like Fleck had plenty of those. The end scene in the Joker movie with Joaquin Phoenix in the asylum could literally be our present day or even in the future. “The more she runs from David, the nightmare, the bigger the monster becomes.” 0. He laughs because he's amused by fucked up shit and when the therapist asks him what he's laughing about he says she wouldn't get it because she's a normal person who doesn't find pain and misery amusing. Arthur says, "I thought of a Joke."

I'm 29 and sometimes I run into folks that were in the same high school class as me that look. Sugar, spice, and capitalism. However, isn't that all a little too convenient?Phillips has previously implied that Joker's heroic status among the city's citizens was all made up, while both the director and Warner Bros have said While Fleck's doctor has a happy ending in the first option, the second two sadly see her leaving Before Joker enacts his Arkham escape, he asks the doctor if he can tell her a joke and quickly changes his mind. Was it both him and Todd Phillips who said that? It's why people don't like him to have a true backstory. (Joker) Ending Scene Theory (Spoilers) FanTheory spoiler When Arthur was talking to the psychiatrist at the end and he said "I just thought of something funny","but you wouldnt get it" then a flashback to Bruce Wayne on the crime alley with his parents dead in the ground and I found it wierd why would Arthur find this funny. Could of picked any other name couldn’t they?

Maybe the riots weren't that big of a thing and he imagined far more.The Joker is, at the heart of the character-myth, the embodiment of insanity. Even if someone believes nihilism is insane it's not the same thing.I'm not sure if this really IS what they were going for but I kind of love this interpretation of it. Kevin Bacon Erotically Devours a Mango It’s like a snake devouring the Republican party.” well, I'll just say they look a bit older than that. The two-part Showtime limited series premieres on September 27.

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