Organized crime and the CIA (my memories are too vague as to whether my father was or was not working as a CIA assassin yet at his time of death. MORRIS: And why does the salmon become important? But not everyone buys his story of killing Jimmy Hoffa, played by Al Pacino, in 1975. And the Supreme Court ruled over a very persuasive dissent by the chief justice, Earl Warren, that when you voluntarily tell someone information, you’re basically giving up your rights. We carry an array of gourmet and specialty sausages as well as the exceptional classics. There is a weird discrepancy about whether the meeting was set for 2:00 or 2:30, but the uncertainty simply contributes to the argument that something strange was going on: Hoffa’s friends and family were incredulous that he would wait any amount of time; he was known to be extremely punctual and intolerant of those who weren’t. There are millions of reasons why cases can’t be cracked. We will not respond to every post, but will do our best to answer specific questions, or address an error. Hoffa arrived at Linteau’s place around 1:30 p.m., perhaps thinking that Linteau would join him for the meeting. One item reads, “TG 230 Wed 14 Mile Tel Fox Rest Maple Road.” “TG” are the initials of Tony Giacalone, “Tony Jack,” a captain in the Detroit Mafia. didn’t actually find any blood in the car. Shortly before his death in 2003, he claimed to have killed Teamster leader Jimmy Hoffa in 1975. JACK GOLDSMITH: I’ve read many reviews that said The Irishman and the underlying book are based on a true account. In all of them, he’s dead—very dead. And I was so happy, believe it or not. Mommy says, “I have an extra surprise for all of you … Original Detroit Sausage Brand Breakfast Sausage.” “Oh, Mommy, you know how much I love that!”, Errol Morris, a filmmaker, is an Editor at Large for AIR MAIL. The Irishman joins in the controversy. Why would Hoffa wait an hour and a half in that parking lot? There was a salmon delivered that day to the Teamsters Union that Chuckie took to the suburbs. The Chuckie character (Jesse Plemons) explains first to his mobster friends, then to Hoffa himself, that he picked up a fish, although he is at a loss to explain what kind of fish. This is a place for opinions, comments, questions and discussion; a place where viewers of History Detectives can express their points of view and connect with others who value history. None of the many theories about what happened to Jimmy Hoffa after he got picked up include the possibility that he’s alive and living on some remote island in the South Pacific. He has a gas receipt dated that day. The Web site aboutthemafia.com reported after his death in January 2019: Former Detroit mob underboss turned informant Tony Zerilli fingered Palazzolo as a member of the hit team that took out Hoffa. Documents can be altered. For more than four decades, Chuckie O’Brien has been known as a key suspect in Jimmy Hoffa’s disappearance. Jimmy Hoffa is pacing up and down in the parking lot of the Machus Red Fox. I still want to tell this story; Jack Goldsmith and I talked at length about it. That was the purpose of that time line. After serving prison time for conspiracy and fraud, Hoffa was pardoned by President Richard Nixon. After Hoffa’s disappearance the whole world was saying that the old school gangster killed Jimmy Hoffa. I’m fatalistic about these things. I can’t believe you’re taking it to your grave.” And he says, “Believe it.” And at that moment, I was so impressed with him. I don’t know the truth still, even about Chuckie. Watch the Full Episode Download the Transcript. MORRIS: There’s this idea—it’s the detective’s dream—if you work long enough and hard enough, you’ll be able to crack a case. Hoffa rose to power in the 50's and into the 60's as the head of the largest trucking union in the country. Truth never shows itself directly. According to Zerilli, he was driving the car that picked up Hoffa from the Bloomfield Township, Michigan restaurant parking lot and was one of the men who killed him. (The interview that follows has been edited and condensed.). And it’s one of the reasons why they told me it was impossible that Chuckie O’Brien was at the Machus Red Fox that afternoon. He had a membership at Jax Kar Wash. It turns out the F.B.I. In the movie, after dropping off a fish for a Teamster co-worker, Chuckie picks up two mobsters and takes them to the Machus Red Fox to meet Hoffa. With In Hoffa’s Shadow, he attempts to clear his stepfather’s name. Scorsese was asked if it matters whether his portrayal of Hoffa’s death is true. It was a precedent that I relied on in upholding parts of Stellarwind. I didn’t even want to talk to Chuckie about the Hoffa disappearance anymore because it was so clear that it was hurting him. The headline in the Detroit Free Press on August 10 was “FBI Seizes Hoffa Case Car; Bloodstains Found on Seat.” Next day, the paper tells us the blood is fish blood. Fresh, on ice. MORRIS: Your stepfather’s presence in the parking lot the day of Hoffa’s disappearance? It was delivered to the Teamsters Local 299 around 11:00 that morning, hours before Jimmy Hoffa began pacing up and down in the parking lot of the Machus Red Fox. I can’t imagine that we’ll ever, ever, ever know what happened. (Can you be a labor boss without massive forearms?) I don’t think that he knew what happened that afternoon. Imagine a happy Detroit family. But here is the central question that should concern us: Did Chuckie O’Brien—Hoffa’s “foster son” and, as it happens, Jack Goldsmith’s stepfather—pick up Hoffa from the Machus Red Fox that afternoon in (Tony’s son) Joey Giacalone’s car, as is portrayed in most accounts? Stellarwind was part of a domestic telephone and e-mail surveillance program authorized by John Ashcroft, George W. Bush’s attorney general, in 2001. It was a book about honor, a book about family, a book about guilt. That’s why this thing is relevant. FBI criminal investigators finally solve the cold case file of what really happened to infamous Teamsters Labor union boss - Jimmy Hoffa. A retired cold-case detective, John Cameron, attributes Hoffa’s murder to serial killer Edward Wayne Edwards. ), and Andrew Card (White House chief of staff). And I haven’t. Chuckie was a well-known clean-car nut––when he had a car. Who would have imagined such a connection? But when he discovered that Linteau had already left for lunch elsewhere, he grew “very loud and was obviously upset,” Goldsmith reports, and “his eyes were in a rage.”. But there was a salmon in the car. I’m 99.9 percent sure. (Or did someone else?) “I don’t really care about that,” Scorsese said. My interest in Jack Goldsmith goes back to March 2004 and an intensive-care unit at George Washington University hospital. Donate Now. There is a receipt from the Airborne Freight Corp., which handled the shipment of the salmon from Seattle to Detroit. According to court records during the investigation a Canadian undercover cop working with the feds got him to admit his role in the Hoffa murder saying that he disposed of the body by running it through a sausage auger at the Eastern Market headquarters of the Detroit Sausage Company. Let’s return to what was apparently Jimmy Hoffa’s last day. GOLDSMITH: Everybody loves the damn appendix. There’s not a single bit of evidence about what happened to him. In short sleeves—better to display his massive forearms. Amazing, really. I’ll share one detail from our conversation: When Card and Gonzales finally left Ashcroft’s hospital room without the signature they had come for (he refused to re-authorize what he considered an illegal program, deferring the decision to Acting Attorney General Comey), Mrs. Ashcroft stuck out her tongue at them. I have to tell you about that conversation. In that memoir—and therefore in Scorsese’s filmed version of it—Sheeran claimed, in so many words, to have killed Jimmy Hoffa. Violet Holmes, this very credible person, testified and told the F.B.I. Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | © 2003 - 2014 Oregon Public Broadcasting. Originally aired on Nov. 15, 2006, on KLAS TV in Las Vegas. GOLDSMITH: The appendix at the end is designed to show that it’s not about what Chuckie said, it’s about what others said Chuckie was doing. It’s called the most perfect crime. Was he murdered? Not a single thing. GOLDSMITH: There is a record of him going to Jax Kar Wash. Author Charles Brandt detailed what Sheeran told him about Hoffa in the … Sheeran was a longtime friend of Hoffa… It still remains a mystery on who killed him though. GOLDSMITH: There are lots of things about that afternoon that make zero sense. Robert Mueller (director of the F.B.I.) If he tells the truth and destroys himself, it’s not worth it to me. Who Killed Jimmy Hoffa? What interest did the White House have in Jimmy Hoffa? Was he hoping to get high-level Mafia approval of his attempts to regain control of the Teamsters? He says, “I know you’re mad.” And I wasn’t mad. But the receipt doesn’t specify a time. It took the heat off some other people that may have been pursued. Most likely he was killed shortly after leaving the Machus parking lot. As he was dying of cancer, Sheeran confided to Brandt that he, Sheeran, killed Jimmy Hoffa (played by Al Pacino) with two bullets in the back of his head in a house in northwest Detroit. That is a precedent for the modern doctrine that in giving up our metadata to phone companies and Internet-service providers, we basically forfeit our rights over that information. But Hoffa, in his short sleeves, never tried it. Also in the room: Mrs. Ashcroft, Alberto Gonzales (White House counsel), James Comey (acting attorney general), Jack Goldsmith (head of the O.L.C. (And was the frozen salmon a red herring?). They also had a dress code: jacket and tie. It’s an itinerary or, if you like, a to-do list. But it’s a fucked-up principle, covering up details about the crime of the century. He was literally a couple of hundred yards away from where the disappearance happened on the day of the disappearance and on the day after the disappearance. I’m endlessly fascinated by the salmon. HDSI - Who Killed Jimmy Hoffa? It’s complete darkness. MORRIS: Whoa, whoa, whoa, how come it’s not in the time line? MORRIS: The book made me cry several times. The writer, a journalist who has investigated the Jimmy Hoffa murder for decades, is the author of “The Hoffa Wars,” “Confessions of a Guerrilla Writer” and eight other books. Back at Hoffa’s home on Square Lake, a note is taped to a lampshade on his desk. never found fish blood in the car, despite the reporting. no longer suspects Chuckie. I’m a filmmaker, and I imagine a close-up on the dead, nacreous eye of the salmon. It’s been years now. He was out in the suburbs delivering a salmon in the car of the son of the lead Mob guy in Detroit, who organized the crime. The attorney general of the United States, John Ashcroft, lying under blankets, in horrible pain, suffering from acute pancreatitis. Recently declassified government files reveal shocking evidence of corruption at the highest levels. Sheeran allegedly shot his friend Hoffa in the head after luring him to a house in Detroit. An entertaining, but also serious weekend edition, delivered every Saturday morning at six o’clock. [The salmon—apparently just a gift—was addressed to Violet’s husband, Bobby, at his Teamsters office; Chuckie was delivering the fish because Bobby was out of town.] We ask that posters be polite and respectful of all opinions. And here’s what the Eastern Market Web site says about the Detroit Sausage Company, Inc.: Since 1928, we have been providing the Midwest with the very best in quality sausage. Card and Gonzales urging Ashcroft to re-authorize the domestic-surveillance program. In almost every version—including the one featured in The Irishman (an adaptation of the book I Heard You Paint Houses)—Chuckie is driving the car that picks Hoffa up for his appointment in Samarra. It explains where Chuckie was and what he was doing that day. Did Chuckie, wittingly or unwittingly, chauffeur Hoffa to his death? That time line was based on grand-jury information that’s never been talked about in public. So this is just the latest in a series of humiliations for him. 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